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THE SOUTHERN EMAIL GROUP -
WHO WE ARE, WHAT WE DO AND WHAT TO EXPECT:

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The group is formed for discussion by email over the internet between Railway Enthusiasts, Historians and Modellers interested in the Southern Railway of the United Kingdom (including those railway companies that were merged together to form it and those that succeeded it).
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We are each at different stages of the hobby. Questions and discussion from those less experienced in matters "Southern" are welcomed as much as those from those more knowledgeable. We hope the more experienced among us will give a little of their time to pass on some experience to those new to railways or modelling. Whether your particular interest is SR; LSWR; LB&SCR, SECR or perhaps S&DJR - or later users of their rails - we'll be glad to read your remarks and send replies to your questions whenever we can.
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To elaborate on the above, the Southern E-Group is not an elitist group of super scratch building modellers or historians. On the modelling front our members range from scratchbuilders through kit builders and kitbashers to those who only own ready to run items, and in scales ranging from large live steam through to 2mm. We welcome newcomers and members who feel no impulse to do or make anything. We ask simply that a member has an 'interest' in the Southern Railway, (plus its predecessors and successors) and if someone new to the hobby wants help building something or needs some information then there's usually someone in the group willing to assist.
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The group operates its mailing list via the Yahoo Groups server which receives E mail addressed to the group and then despatches it to all group members on it's membership list. This mail server is immune from junk mail although it does add an advertising message to each e mail. You do not need to maintain your own address list, merely to know the address of the group's mail server - which will be given to you if you decide to join the group. If you are already registered with Yahoo Groups note that we are a "closed" group so you will be assisted with adding the SEmG to your subscription list.
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Although by the nature of our subject the majority of members reside in the UK we have a significant number of members from all over the world and our mailings are truly a 24 hour operation.
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At first you will be receiving messages on topics already in progress, so during the early days of receiving messages they may not make much sense. If you ask a question of the group or start a topic there is no guarantee it will get a response or take off. However experience has shown that an identical question/topic posed later may get a completely different and productive response. It all depends upon who is active on the list at the time and how much time they have to provide a detailed response.
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At certain times correspondence can be at a high level so collecting your email after a few days break can lead to extended download times. Even with the best will in the world not all messages at any given moment will be of interest to any one individual! Established SEmG members handle this by speed reading each message received and then deleting those not of interest, preferring to spend more time over reading the messages of interest they have retained.
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Membership of the SEmG is free of charge though periodically voluntary donations into a trust fund may be solicited to ensure the group has funds to cover its very low but necessary operating costs. Donations into this trust fund should be made on the understanding that they do not buy any privileges.
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The SEmG is a group of volunteers working in their - often scarce - part time and not a business. All members aim to respond promptly but tolerance is asked when personal and business concerns result in delay.



Members who submit e-mail posts to SEmG assume full legal responsibility for the contents of their submissions. Contributors to SEmG are expected to own the copyright for all materials submitted, or to have obtained permission from the owner of the copyright to use the materials. The SEmG Commitee assume no legal responsibility or copyright for other legal infringements contained in postings to SEmG.
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If you have problems with subscribing to the group please contact our Mailing List Manager; John Russell who will do his best to assist you.


OUR MEMBERSHIP ETIQUETTE:

The Southern E Group is for the majority of the time a self-running and self-moderating group. This is because although we only have a few rules we ask members to observe them to ensure that things do run sweetly......

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Please limit discussion to the Southern Railway of the United Kingdom (including those railway companies that were merged together to form it and those that succeeded it) relating to both prototype and modelling matters. Discussion of railway modelling techniques in general - particularly with the aim of improvement of... - is also welcomed.
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Please ensure the subject line of your e mail accurately reflects the content especially when a replying to a discussion has been running some time and drifted from the original topic. Replies under those conditions should be more appropriately re-titled.
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When replying to a message please refrain from blindly quoting the previous message(s) in full. Please ensure you only include the minimum required to clarify what your response is to.
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If a subject is deemed to be not of a relevant topic for the group, and inevitably if it involves a railway that has something to do with copper capped chimneys and Swindon, a fellow member make invoke a visit to you by THE CARDINAL - which is a light hearted way of moderating off-topic discussions.
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Before responding to a message reread the original message one more time. Confusion can ensue if a wrong assumption is made and everyone responds.
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We hope members will refrain from sending derogatory remarks about other members or opinions that may be inflammatory. Doing so can cause sudden irrational comment from all directions. If you do get into a personal argument mail your response to just that member and not to the group as a whole. This is not a regularly moderated discussion group, however the SEmG's voluntary officers (see below) reserve the right to intervene if on an extremely rare occasion a topic or discussion becomes too heated.
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Members are requested not to hide behind the annonymity of a pseudonym. If your real name is not shown as part of the details in your e-mail program then you are requested to write it in the body of your posting. Should a member persistently refuse to do so then he or she may be asked to leave the list.
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Members must not receive unsolicited attachments. In fact our Yahoo Groups server has been configured to strip out an attachment. When wanting to use an attachment such as a picture or diagram to illustrate the conversation members are requested to do so either:
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by an e-mail to the group soliciting positive responses from individuals to receive an attachment, or
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by posting to the shared files area on our Yahoo Groups server (see below)
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For both methods of delivery if sending something which is not your own original work you are strongly advised to ensure that you are not breaking copyright. The SEmG will not be responsible for, nor does it condone, breaches of copyright by its members.
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Occasional advertising is allowed, provided what you are advertising is related to the Southern Railway (or its predecessors and succesors). Please make sure that such adverts end with the reminder that members should contact you offline to discuss details and make sure that when replying to any adverts, that you follow this procedure.
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If uploading files to the shared area groups.yahoo.com/group/SEmG/files please bear in mind it is for temporary purposes only. You should not link to any file in this space from any website since it is liable to become unavailable without notice. When the space becomes 75% full the List Manager will delete files (excepting those used for group administration) starting from those there longest until the space is only 50% full. This is to prevent the space becoming overloaded and stopping others from uploading to it
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Members may also upload photographs to the shared Photo Album page at Yahoo!. You should use one of the seven existing albums and not create a new one without consulting the List Manager. As with the Files area, once the Photo Album area becomes more than 75% full the List Manager will delete photos starting from those there longest until the space is only 50% full. Further information on uploading is available here
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Because of similarity of our name with the Southern Electric Group please refer to us as the Southern E-Group, or SEmG for short. Our group's mail server automatically prefixes each email you send to the group with "[SEmG]" to identify readily e mail from the group.
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SEmG members need to have a universally accepted email address and preferably 7 day a week access. If you or your service provider has problems which interrupts your service for more than a couple of days it may cause the egroups.com server to temporarily remove your name from the Southern E-Group list.
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Once you have joined you are also strongly recommended to log into Yahoo Groups site (http://groups.yahoo.com/) and set up your personal profile. You can change the password to something that suits you, select the options of receiving individual e mails/a daily digest/or no e mails (but read on-line from the archive), view the membership list, view files in the shared area, read the group's event calendar, etc. When you are going to be away from your e mail for an extended period (for instance whilst being away on holiday) you are advised to set your personal profile to the "no e mails (internet only)" option rather than unsubscribing since this will prevent a possible delay with re-subscribing when you return.
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Membership of the SEmG is free of charge though periodically voluntary donations into a trust fund may solicited to ensure the group has funds to cover its very low but necessary operating costs. Donations into this trust fund should be made on the understanding that they do not buy any privileges.

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The SEmG is a group of volunteers working in their - often scarce - part time and not a business. All members aim to respond promptly but tolerance is asked when personal and business concerns result in delay.

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